082:Chads Pipe Guards, Wasp Control & Rat Proofing | Ep 82

0:00 hello and welcome to not the normal best perspectives i'm starting to do recorded episodes i am on my opinions as well um i got a little serious i've just started they won't be massively long episodes but this one is specifically aimed at like good products within the industry i have had jason on before talking about it but this is specifically aimed at the chad the chad guards chad pipes chad correct me jason sorry pipe guard chad's pipe guard rat blockers that's it you see it's so different it is you know when you hit record rather than being live i'm more used to being live than i am with the record button you just have a brain bar it is it's weird but yeah yeah thanks for agreeing to pop on this uh this little podcast for some reason i look really under my chair i look really little i'll try that but yeah uh thanks for agreeing to come on even though this been in this has been in the works for weeks i've been procrastinating i have month yes exactly exactly but i might as well mention a sponsor i'll say i've sponsored the podcast powered now you can probably see no i can't get it from where it is there and maybe that was right power now is that where it's on screen i don't know yeah yeah yeah i don't i don't i don't know

1:46 that we'll probably read there you go there no there um there yeah job management software basically best reports etc you can uh you can try it out i'll have a link in description as well if you want to try it out but it's quite good if you want to check it out you can it's they helped power the power of the podcast so to speak for a year so it's all good but thank you if they're powered now benjamin and the team so this podcast i've got on jason from ask pest control how are you doing again just

2:30 i'm all right mate how are you a busy week so far yeah it's nice to sit down and relax for a bit in the office doing doing paperwork you okay I'm okay she's all them all them all them qualifications up yeah I can see all of them nice yeah most of me yeah the ones at the top and then ones with the uh my pattern oh right i think um and then i've got no no 25 year thingy award not what for um mpta member what's up for mpta no no no no long service for my last job but it was actually 30 years i've got it when i left i got 30 years i did 30 years oh that's good that is but nice so um yeah so how did you actually think about this product oh you can show it show it off on the camera this these yeah that's it maybe i think of these yeah how's it coming to be that's a better that's a better way to show it to charge pipe blockers

4:02 it came up when i was working for the local authority and we used to we used to give a free pest control service out and we did that many jobs it's like when you're working in the private sector you don't do that many domestic jobs really per day in the private sector you do contracts you do a lot of contracts per day so we were doing anywhere between 10 and 20 domestic jobs a day yeah because it was a free service everyone says oh yeah rats just running a counselor yeah and i went to one property once and we had a really heavy downpour of rain yeah and the woman says i was getting noises in the loft so i went and had a walk around outside yeah and i found this dead rat in the drain pipe going up the drain pipe and he must have got stuck at the top on something and he actually died there so i i thought wow something missing there something missing so i asked one of the old lads who i used to work with and he goes oh yeah yeah they will climb up tell people just chuck screws through the through the drain and that that's what got me thinking about this so this has been going on for 20 15 20 years yeah me thinking about this and i and i did give the idea to pelzis matlody at pelzis when he was at uh it was either sx or

5:46 pelzis when he used to work for one of them okay and they fobbed it off that that was years ago they fobbed it off years ago and i thought off and it only came back to fruition when i uh started my own business okay and then i started it seems often when you think about it you thought somebody would have thought about that before that but they didn't and they've always got about proofing do your proofing no one's thought about the pipe the pipes yeah the damn ones and and that's it that's what what is pest control at the end of the day it's not just go around chucking bait down uh actually finding out the way yeah the way the rats are getting into a property and there was more more ways of a rat getting into the property from drains that's why someone invented the drain flaps to put in the drains and i invented this exactly i'm interested about that as well because you own the pattern what's what was that like is that pattern approved like you owned the pattern you actually applied properly yeah yeah yeah yeah the designer the designer thing yeah yeah on it yeah so there is lots of paperwork you have to go through oh then you have to send pictures off dimensions and and whatever um then you have to make sure there's

7:19 no one else has got doing anything similar so if someone's doing something close to yours you can't do it but when i looked on it nobody else had thought of it so i was the first person to go on the angle right it makes you wonder doesn't it it really makes you wonder if everyone knows that that's a common place and even you mentioned it years ago to the to the other the company matt worked for i bet they're kicking themselves now why didn't we go for it but it's quite a simple thing yeah yeah i don't yeah i don't think matt's kicking himself now because i sound through his company so hopefully hopefully yeah so they're sold through loadium rat pack at the moment i will share this on the screen the load the loadie one so here's i will change screens and go through them so that is the hold on right here's here here's all the squares i've got on this site the square one there's it change oh right there we go right there's a white one it should be on there now there's the black if you've got to watch this people if you want uh spotify or apple yeah i'm just going through all the pictures there we go all the different sizes that's it and that's just that's just squared around yeah there you go

8:55 which i think are the the easiest ones to

9:00 to they are they are they are the easiest ones to do because you can i don't know whether you can

9:09 all right we say so don't you worry whether you can see the big one you're going to put the big screen back on do you want to want all right john which removes that yeah

9:21 yeah yeah put the big screen back on there we go so i don't know whether you can see down see down that far all right hold on i think i can can you see down that spot right there we go i think everyone can just see you now for the minute everyone can wait a minute i will just hold on i would just turn off the bank if i just turn off the banner there they should be able to see that now right to the bottom that's it that's the best i can do it is that's okay yeah yeah so these square to round ones um they're made for like um when properties have the round holes in the ground and they change to square to the square drains yeah so to fit these you just put them into the the round holes and then slot the pipe into it if you can cut it put it in and then you've got you can either the square to square ones so if you don't want to bend down every time you change it or or clean it out you can actually cut halfway up the pipe like this one and all you have to cut out is that much i don't know if you can see that much there without ratting it oh yeah so it's not it's not a lot it's like a centimeter and a half so that's how much you have to cut out which is roughly that piece there and then you can bend them and slot them in uh exactly the same as the

10:49 round ones so you've got the round ones there and you've got the round ones at the bottom now i've seen people put these round ones on junctions so they don't have to do no cutting um so i have we have also done that without cutting we've actually managed to slot it in without cutting it before you can't always do it though yeah that easy no no but uh but yeah if you do have to cut the pipe it's only roughly a centimeter and a half a couple of centimeters it's roughly it's not it's roughly that gap there there you go i'm sure everyone could see that on the video um but yeah that's uh also jason's got a thing you can also sell your customers if you want to tell them when you've sold them it you know the little service you do as well because they feel some of your customers yeah yeah yeah because because i i sell them and i fit them um if a cleaning out service so you can go like if they live right by a wooded area or you live by a wooded area then they need cleaning out more regularly and what you would do if like in a town or something so you could clean them out every two months but with this with these metal guards i have found out because i have fitted someone to one of the whole properties i did these new grates

12:15 they don't block up so much nice so you're doing less less cleaning so yeah so if they live by if you live by a wooded area every couple of months just check them so that's why you want a nice tight fit but not too far so you can do it quite regularly but if you don't live in it next to a wooded area you can do it like once every three four five months just check it just in case any moss or any anything actually going to stop it stop it going going down because it's obviously and because they because they slot together yeah great will never move no nothing will get through that um marine stainless steel um so they are coming through it um that's that's the no definitely not getting through yeah no they're definitely not getting through no honestly no okay yeah so and they come in all different colors so it's like this square square square when it comes in white brown and black yeah that's a square to rounds they come in white black brown and white but then they've also bought out some new colors like grey and anthracite in the round ones and then you just got the normal black brown and white ones okay well it's a good variety there is oh yeah yeah it's there's enough out there for everybody

14:01 to find out what they need and what they what they need to do on the pipe work and plus if you have any trouble fitting them just give me a ring or give me a shout on on facebook or whatever um and i'm more than happy i have facetime with you and show you how to do it that's because they are that easy to fit now they are we we fit them we do uh i haven't fitted much recently but uh still got some stock of them we have um i haven't fit in much recently and they're always handy to yeah it's always handy to have a couple in the van as well so you can just show the customers this is what we sell and this is what we can do yeah it's so yeah even having a couple in the van quite handy it is it's good it's good to have on hand it is um they do look nice as well they do it's about when you do it it's a it's about selling the solution not like you have these just this this is another entry point that could potentially so sometimes it's not the one but sometimes you block one off it can go the other way so sometimes you best stop doing all of them yeah really yeah yeah i i yeah i find they go up the rainwater drain pipes more when we have a heavy downfall than anything else if if we have a real heavy downfall or the or the rainwater sewers fill

15:34 up quite quickly from the main service that's where i find and they will climb up there that's it's not a problem for them at all no it's amazing always amazing customers when you tell them no they can't look it up at least there'll be a video on youtube if you're looking up there'll be a video they will they're very clever they are well when we when we do ratting again i'll see if i can take a video where they've actually hollered out an old oak tree and they just skip across the branches so this oak tree is hundreds of years old yeah and there's always been rattles around this old oak tree but they've actually burrowed inside the oak tree and they come across the branches and they come across and get away that way um so yeah i'll have to take a video of that when i when i go down there again i see that that would be good yeah i'll see if i did one for sure yeah so with that um you know you did the pattern was it really complicated to do because i i watched dragon's den and they're like i've got a pattern and then she sits there deborah does no you've got proper pattern yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah this is the intellectual property pattern so it's not as hard as a normal pattern um but it's just as paperwork yeah it's all paperwork and then

17:12 it has to go on to people to examine it and all that and then and then they send you it back and and then you get the certificates at the end If you don get the certificates you know you haven got it um so getting the intellectual property pattern is is key that's it that's it that's it that's all it's there for um a normal pattern is anyone in China can nick you make your idea no one's been successfully sued so yeah if someone in China starts making them I can't I haven't got a leg to stand on because I think even the business I've heard there's fake money's in China I feel like the grid on the front is different and that was enough for it not to copy yeah you know but uh but yeah well even if you make a direct yeah even if you make a direct copy in china i don't think there's been one company successful in suing a chinese company because they just don't care it's like lego though they reckon that lego um they can't they can't even the master builders reckon that they bought like fake lego and they reckon they can't even tell the difference is that good

18:42 yeah so but you haven't noticed nothing yet so don't worry about it it'll be fine no no nothing yet nothing yet and i'm only selling it through two suppliers in here yeah so yeah yeah is it selling is it is it selling well i suppose it's been somewhere in it we sell better in the winter yeah yeah it has slowed down but as you know sean because i'm always in i'm always talking to you i do sell quite a few um especially to to local pest controlers as well so yeah i like we look after them but but yeah i'm not i'm not exclusive to one company to sell at um which you don't really want to be really do you so some some some products are but some products ain't but yeah if someone wants exclusive they're gonna pay the rhino i think i think that's how a lot of these deals i think yeah yeah i don't know i'm no expert but i'm guessing that's how some of it works i don't know 100 100 but yeah so anyone wants to check it out or um or buying it you can buy it off load it or you can buy it off engineering but wrap back yeah got it yeah and if you buy this hang on they've got the older one yeah not the new version they they've got they do sell the new versions yeah um but they've got on the picture they've got the old

20:19 version of it but they do rat pack do sell the new gridded version yeah so don't type in chan trans pipe guards on the um the rat pack website you'll get absolutely nothing come up you you need to go through proofing i think it's a proofing section um they're on there and also there's loader uk as well they sell them i'm not logged in by the way people that's why um you can't see the prices on that um a lot of companies do that i think well when they make you log in first before you see anything i know i think rat pack do because i could see the price but um a lot of that has to do with have you got your ticket to buy a dentist site didn't it oh that is yeah yeah more than anything more than anything it is so yeah no um thanks jason for showing off topic a bit off topic a bit yeah what season going this year yeah

21:30 yeah and your wasp season gone so far up and down call it i'll call it down on last year definitely i'd call it an average year still getting this now weird yeah but yeah yeah what's necessary showed you i went to on saturday with the bathroom where i put my phone in yeah she's rang up saying she's found another one like that but it hasn't come through so she's not until she won't be until thursday so we're going there have a look at that but i'll put a video up about that i used i used diagram on that on that one because uh that nest i actually pushed through because to start with it was all blocked up so some of it must have fell down further in but they were falling out literally they were falling out on that back just kept coming they were just falling out dead yeah they were but um in general i mean i I had one similar to that where they actually made a nest on the curtains and this the students house and yeah I think you did yeah and it got that heavy it just broke onto and fell onto the floor and then they started making it on the floor wow it is amazing yeah well yeah that was a that was the weirdest one I had but you know we all use or we should do thermal cameras so everyone's

22:59 getting a better idea now i've had my thermal camera for about seven or eight years uh yeah i think it's much that was only because i went out with my beekeeper yeah obviously we've just got a flow is it flow flow flow flow i can't think that's it we've just got one of them cameras it's not that's it that's it um it's not um top end it's you know 100 or 200 quid it's not the top end one but it does the job however when it's a really hot day it's difficult ain't it because the outside of the house can also be hot and it doesn't it won't help that's the issue sometimes when the whole house is hot and the frames are hot and you can't we had a house where i i gave up it was a house we don't usually but we actually gave up i said to her i know exactly where the nest is it was literally on this house on top of the um it's like a uh basically there's a kid's room there's windows and it was on top of a flat roof oh like a like yeah yeah and i said to her you're gonna have to find someone that's got a big that's gonna have to be a ladder job and we don't carry a ladder that big she even got her ladder out and we just had to walk away because i could hear the nest but pinpointing the actual location

24:31 because of the heat on that day i couldn't i couldn't do it so that job i had to leave couldn't you do something you enjoyed did you have a look on the inside i did but it was a really it was a hot very very hot day and it was i couldn't i couldn't get i couldn't get a reading i couldn't but you could see it but she she didn't i did i did have other nest though that was lower down but i said to her that's the noise of a wasp nest it's just like raining it's a forest nest yeah so she may have got someone else out i don't know for that because i just couldn't do it but at least you admit you met you admit when you can't do it you don't lie and say well i don't i don't like to do that because a lot of times you can end up coming back forth you know a load of times but that's it i do think though i do think we're was season it's been an average season but i do think as as i like to say the vicam d boys and girls when they run out you're gonna know who can do a what's next and who can't because although a lot of people are saying oh yeah it's all good it's all good you'll find a lot of these people are just using vicam d that's why it's all good yeah because you do because we've had yeah yeah we've had a few

25:44 call back this year using the uh using deadline pie dust pro there we are so that's been pretty good but there was one job though it's interesting for people this one is and we did three nests at this house and they had it has holly western slates so we did them we thought we did them and then we went back we went back once we went back another time and she thought we can see it in the loft so my dad goes into the loft to have a look lo and behold you have the um what did they call it let's have a think you know where you got it's not felt it's like insulation and it looks like foam it's like foam oh that rubbish foam stuff they sprayed on under collie western slate yeah so what was happening was we were putting the pipe in and not getting the actual nest so what happened is we kept putting it under the slate so you know how normally you put it in and it goes oh round that wasn't happening yeah so we worked that out after the third time and in the end to be fair we killed one and less around the corner we just gave him his money back we did on two of them that one because so if you're in my area and you did the was nest the two was nest please contact me let me know how you got on i will because that one

27:20 bugged me that did but uh so far yeah it's been all right but again a lot more recently people obviously finding they've got nests too late and a lot of them have been falling out of people's uh ceilings or bits we had a lot of that recently where yeah the lady went to on saturday she actually knew she knew she had an issue and i said to her at the end have we learned a lesson she says yes or ring professionals there has been a lot more of that though this year hasn't it there has been a lot more than that this year when coming through plasterboard or anything like that um so the only way you can get to it is actually through the plasterboard um yeah i know people that one saturday yeah sorry that one i did saturday it already had and she covered it over with cardboard and taped it so yeah yeah have you had a lot of jobs like that then i've had more than more than the average what people have yeah more than what i normally have um and it's like using it's like you know i use deadline dust so i actually try and get it actually into the nest so most of the time they've eaten the plasterboard out that much it's just like a little paper so you don't need to go in drilling holes all you need is your metal prong off your dr5

28:48 bang it in once you thermaled it and banged it in got got to the nest then you can just squirt and on your way out um if it's inaccessible from the loft but you know me mate i've been doing it for years if i can rip a wasp nest out of a loft i will i'll get the suit on i'll get my full face respirator on i've been in that many lofts it's it's unreal some people are scared of going in lofts which is a which is quite reasonable if you don't know what you're doing in a loft keep out of it um or don't don't try it at all but if you can see a nest in the loft even if you just use your your dust stick or your or your powder stick or whatever your telescopic stick and punch the nest and use it that way I try and remove it because I don't because I don't like leaving nests in loft with insecticide I think that's just I know a few people do but if I can just go in there and rip the nest out you know you're not going to get that nest you know that nest you're never going to get a call back phone call so that's the way I like doing it no you're right you are because there is that.

30:05 It's like Matt from Be Kind where he made that Hornet video where he removed it and everyone was telling him he was doing it wrong and this, that and the other. At the end of the day, it's sort of awesome. Yeah. Everyone does things differently. They do. He's doing it wrong. He's done it correct. He never did nothing wrong. If I can get into a loft and put a plastic bag down use dye grain or uh bio bio uh by what is it chop the chop the bio chop the biochock as long as you put a plastic bag underneath that underneath the nest to catch any of the because it's quite oily that's a biochock and you don't want to get that on any of the the plasterboard or else it just seeps through and you'll just get stains and stains and stains so just get a plastic bag down for biochock it get your hand in flick it down into the bag clean everything off um and just have a look for the entry point and then just put some dust on there on the entry point so any coming in that night is going to get the dust on them they haven't got a nest to go into if it drops cold you know they're going to die if they come through the dust you know they're gonna do it and that's exactly that's the be all and end all of it that's the easiest way to do it but the thing is matt from because i know i know we're going to get i know i know we're going to get some comments while you're going in lost yeah come on drop the comments in below i know we're not live please go on yes i don't know what i've done but i seem to attract pest controllers and not the public he said i said you can't work out of it

31:50 he's just no mate he says it's all press controls and watch all my videos some reason he said i don't know what i've done but they all watch my stuff they do it's good stuff though so he's doing something right and he and he is a nice lad he is a nice lad i would would never criticize

32:10 we all have different ways but it's like most people could just say it constructively that's what that's your way here's how i would approach it and that's it you don't have to say well you're wrong where's your where's your risk assessment going out loft that was a bit dangerous well he looks safe to me no not really it is working at heights when you're working at height yeah another one was working the tights in a loft well if you're climbing a ladder and you get into the loft you're actually not working in the loft

32:50 i think someone needs ladder courses more than anything else it's not it's it's working off the ladder see i did i did one yeah i didn't i didn't even need to go in the loft it was a workplace and um i did it from outside first time i think i showed you going nuts first time and they set the video a week later they've still going and i remember him saying you can see it from the lofts and i didn't listen to him so i said can i have a look at the loft so i pulls it down not far i went there it is i've got an idea yeah so what i did told the staff to go in got the dr5 just got two poles straight up dust into the dust into it done but they don't use that lost space you see at all it's a business no so that was safe enough that was but that was quite big i thought anyway but there's different ways yeah i've done that with holes in little lofts yeah but i didn't even have to get in the loft i did it from the floor literally you know a nice wooden fold out ladders so what i balanced it on i didn't even have to get that down i balanced it on that and i used my torch which you shouldn't do a normal torch but no wass came down and i was just i just felt it that way and i thought great yeah red courts i always carry i always carry a little red torch on me i'll be

34:17 getting a red torch i'm going to get a red torch for next year hey who's got one of them shout out to jackie she's got one too now she has yeah yeah it's off amazon little well you can they're lamping torches so you put them on top of your rifles mother and i think but this one i've had for god's years and it's still it still works really good and it's got a short beam or wide beam on it I always carry I got about 25 torches in the camp in my van different types different shapes i tell you what well have you had a lot of people ring you where a wasp nest has gone absolutely nuts it's in the ground and the badgers a badger has has had it but it's not finished it off completely because i've had loads of them who have to go and finish it off and it's clearly a badger because it's like the claws it's like and all the and all the nests everywhere but i've just gone to wipe out the last bit of it i had a load of them this year a load of ground nests loads of them this year yeah and they yeah the wasps this year have been really nasty i've had more nasty nests and and kindness as i call it you can walk up to a nest and you can you can virtually judge how good it's going to be by the amount of flying about and coming at you now some of the nasty ones you can't get within

35:50 10 feet of it before you start seeing them coming out that's when that's when it's like i did one the other day they actually took over a mole hole and actually they actually dug the mole hole out to about this big and you could actually see the nest in it uh which was in the ground and they were nasty i've never oh as soon as i started walking up i was about 10 foot away they were coming out and having a go at me and that was in public land so if anyone hope not too many people got stoned i'd say that i did that through the local authority it happens but i wouldn't say that any of that's down to the the chemicals we're using i'd say that even if you've used vulcan no no i never know obviously obviously if that bike is different it's not the same but well you can't well yeah yeah you can't use vicam in the ground anyhow um and i don't i don't know everyone i don't know you know everyone used to you know it don't you you know it yeah yeah yeah but i normally use deadline in here because you kept that daddy's license for in the ground i don't know where the vulcan is and i don't know where the court is license i wouldn't have thought yeah i won the thought courses because it's yeah i think deadlines many people can

37:15 is Vulcan licensed for public places Vulcan P5 is that the Vulcan P5 boss killer let's have a look that is, oh you're joking me no it doesn't come up I thought Amazon sold it literally they're appetising for it Amazon are but it hasn't come up PestFix, let's check on PestFix. Right, here we go, downloads, the dust, the label. Let's have a look. Vulcan, load, load, load. Come on, let's see. I'll have to move you across. Apply dust as a band treatment to floors and next to wall junctions for crawling insect insect control or spot treatment, cracks and crevices, apply fine, hang on, apply to what's nest, use just directly, treats, nests and ant runs, apply a barrier treatment, this product is ready to use, use only in accordance with the direction and label, it doesn't, would it say that if it's do not use for foodstuffs well i don't know it doesn't it doesn't say as such unless i've read the wrong bit i have but this one though it says apply a product at a rate of 10 to 25 grams per square meter you know you've got to use more don't you with all this stuff yeah it depends what time of year it is yeah if you've only got a grapefruit size or a football size then yeah but you know people i've seen some some some people had some cracking nests this year three or four feet wide and and so deep and they've they've really had some good nests this year yeah um but they have been big nests at the end of the year this year for some reasons as well so so yeah i don't i'm reading the label i don't i don't think you're supposed to put it in the ground but i don't know no there's a lot of don't do this don't do that it can't be put near poultry

39:42 or live animals or anything so i don't know really that's why deadline's so good because you can use it in the ground you can use it because it's a natural product It's meant to be the most natural. Well, it is. It's a natural pyrethroid. Yeah. One of the two. So it's meant to be more eco-friendly as such. But, yeah, there's been a lot of nests like that. I haven't had nests really high this year. You know, like really, really high. I've had probably two that have probably fallen. Yeah, in Boston, that's a bit of it.

40:23 yeah it might have been mainly yeah it might have been mainly in lofts in air bricks in holes in the wall in the cavity walls or in the ground so I think I used me uh because you know I got that Vespa kill you have I've used that yet twice so I've seen that I'm not seeing one that whole I've not had one that high this year well I showed you that one I did I didn't I I showed you that I would never have got to that nest without it so yeah it is a good bit of kit that's a Vespa kill but I am going to say now Rob from 1EMV start getting them bendy nozzles in for it because they do do a bendy nozzle so you can use it on wasp nests as well as hornet's nests so I just just tell the on the bottom of the landslabs not slap do them would that fit on landslabs to bend the nozzles no I don't know no is that sometimes good and sometimes sometimes crap because sometimes they're good but when you get it up there sometimes it it bends the wrong way or move it moves yeah and you got put the the the metal one on them yeah the metal nozzles are quite really good because you've got like two different sized metal nozzles one's for what one's for they're both for hornets nests really one's like a spike and then the other one's like with the holes in the side so when you pierce the nest

42:00 you can just press your button and it just dispenses in in the nest but uh but yeah uh jackie jackie from bridge north pest control did send me a link which i've got to have a look in see if there's anything i can adapt to it for next year rob from one env can't get older there get older the the bending nozzles for me after well yeah cracking bit of kit but it i haven't utilized it as much as i would like to do this year but when i have used it it's coming really and because you know my pole i've got my big long 50 foot pole as well so yeah

42:44 this uh oh that's good that is that is yeah because uh with it it did it did the job didn't it when you needed it it was there it was that's it that's it yeah yeah it hasn't paid it like everyone says it's got to pay for itself it hasn't paid for itself this year um but it's not been a big years no no no no i think we've had a stops and starts haven't we with them this year it's you have quite a few in one week then the next week it's you only have three or four and then it goes off again i know some companies go do quite a lot of them um but yeah this year for me i will say though it's it's been everyone it hasn't been the best year it hasn't been the best year but it hasn't been the worst year right everyone dr5 pump you all took the piss best bit of kick with ball i'd see you all take the mickey on my toast tell you now right if you've got a lost nest right and you're struggling to get to it so for all of you that say you should use a little canister like that will you imagine on some of the nesting amount of times you'd have to reload that so with this once the air pressure goes down it just self it just self pumps so you won't run out of dust so literally i wouldn't but you couldn't you could literally empty your dust

44:10 but i will yeah but if you've got multiple nests or another situation it's been handy where that this this trend seems to be i'm going to get rid of the garret or i'm going to get rid the garden gate and i'm going to put a garage on my house i'm going to put a room on walking through a customer's house with the equipment you don't need to now i don't hand pump anything because i think it's ridiculous hand pumping walk through the house for the pole set it up in the garden pump it up do the nest deep pressure walk through the house no risk so it's coming handy for that but i would say i can't remember how much i said it was 200 i don't remember really however i would say it's the best bit of kit we've bought and yes it is everyone says it's a little bit top heavy it can be because it can roll it can it can't fall over but end of the day it isn't that much heavier it really isn't and it looks the part a lot of customers have been very impressed with it they have yeah i've got two dr5s i'd use one with a spike in ours i'll keep one with the spike in osla and i use the other one for me lance and i haven't got the electric pump like you got on yours i've just got two normal car pumps you know the rechargeable car pumps yeah all rechargeable

45:36 yeah it does yeah i just put them on there and i carry mine about in waterproof bags 20 liter waterproof bags so any dust that does come out at the end of the nozzle it all goes in the bag it doesn't spread all over your van like it has you has been so at the end of the season i'm just going to have to i'll probably still have as much dust in there in the bag as what i've uh in my dr5 but uh but yeah um and i've also bought a new a new handle for one of my dr5s because it does yeah we bought we bought one as well yeah they can't go wrong they can't mess up they can't yeah um yeah and i've had that one for years i've had it for about 10 years that one so it hasn't done well really i know people that go oh just change the seals on it and all that but i haven't got time and i haven't got the they don't cost much changing shoes don't cost a lot really you just 30 quid for a new handle from one emv so we've actually just bought bought a new product of the same company birch i don't know birch my is that how you say it birch my

46:51 yeah i can say it right now i say birch my uh i was at mpt on the road um god was it that's it's in peterborough either last week or the week before and john from my rep from kill germ had um this little kind of little bottle it's like probably where are we oh there's a camera it's probably well it's a lot bigger than that it's quite big and basically yeah it's it's a sprayer hold on and we bought one it's about 40 quid so you can just put say say you say you're doing somewhere small you can put your chemical in it and use it as one of them yeah rather than let's see what it is i've got so much similar i i've got something similar from one emv it's um it's a normal pumpy spray bottle one liter spray bottle and it's got like a little lance on it a little squirty lance is it um on it so so you can put it on your belt and use the use the thing that way and i've also got um from one emv the electric one liter sprayer you just charge up by usb and that's that's good because i i was getting fed up of buying glories all the time

48:16 i think i've found god they've got loads on here they've got hundreds of them I might be that I don't know the birch might I think we've bought I'm on the site hang on I'll go I'll look on kill jams no gym but see what comes up

48:42 it's just a little spray bottle basically it is I'll just type that see what comes up is it electric or is it i found it oh no um yeah it's a battery sprayer yeah hold on i'll show everybody present share that's the one picture i don't need audio all right it's that is it on screen oh yeah yeah it's about 40 pounds yeah i've got i've got similar but mine's from mesto i've seen the electric one yeah you usb um fantastic used it a load of times on jobs uh and also um you get another one it's another Mesto one where you actually you have to physically pump it up yeah but you've got like a what you call it it's like a bendy pipe that comes off and it's got the sprayer on their bended pipe so you can just chuck it on your belt and spray it that way but yeah if you don't want to buy that go to the Mesto I've even got a Mesto four liter spray metal fall for lead spray and that's probably and the five liter and they are probably one of the best sprayers of that even better than glory but we just seen it we also bought I don't know what it was called but the inner rat beating stick he had like it's like a a little bar it's like it yeah it's like a little bar i believe that you dispatch rats and mice with

50:38 it it's like a little little little bat thing it might have been that we bought one of them as well yeah a little cosh it's very rare that ever happens where we need to do that but uh we've got something to do it now if it ever happens we have it looks better it also looks better than a hammer as well yeah I've got my trusty bigotter baseball bat yeah I've never had to be honest I've never had to do it customers look at your shop which mean you don't I said don't use traps and bait or whatever we don't actually physically fight them I said that's not how it works but they all think you're a rat fighter you know you go and fight rats what not no no no no um yeah brother yeah no more season has been all right it has i do think

51:41 week on how's your week been so far have you has it been busy yeah yeah it's been fairly yeah it's been fairly busy yeah yeah yeah yeah rats again sewers lifting sewers have you used your camera much no no no um that one job you know that one job i showed you the trains yeah well uh nathan from pest force was a couple of doors down the neighbor said the lady said oh I seen the Pest Force fans okay I showed a photo so I went and seen him and luckily he's got a guy from up north and he's getting every drain this guy's doing a full drain survey on her her um uh you know where i showed you that illegal drain the way it's been done so he's getting yeah that that lads get doing a full drain survey all the coding everything because he said they won't listen to us and we put our camera up and just say just you need all the relevant coding and you know full analysis of what's going on so yeah so yeah he's getting a full drain survey she is i think it's this week i think but uh oh is it that was yeah yeah but um i'll find a good catch up with him yeah yeah it'd be good to catch up with him well not not it's this uh i don't even know his name he's good i didn't really have time to chat but he's he had all the proper i mean a proper camera it was a decent camera

53:29 and uh yeah she's uh he met he rang me later on and said i said did she get in that drain survey he said yeah he's coming back to do a full drain survey for it because the house she was there the other person i think that collapsed drains and all sorts i did oh god yeah yeah and then they were both council houses you see you know where houses yeah but they say houses but they've cut it into a flat you know what them kind of things they're like flats but it's really looks like an amazing s yes like that yeah so uh he said that ain't even yeah yeah i did i did a job similar to that where they were um the houses were built by a company but they were like a multiple occupancy and then got about 20 years ago they changed them back to single dwelling so they had like two stench pipes running to different sewers so the front of the house the sewers yeah they looked all right but they were disused so they weren't used at the front of the property everyone was using the stench pipes at the back of the property and i found the collapsed drain on the end one where this bloke was getting real bad rat problems but they were running up the block of the houses now that there was like 10 or 12 houses in this block and they were getting all right problems from this one break in

55:03 the end so we we just blocked it off and touch wood not on my run up yet so that isn't a bad job and i didn't have to use a sewer flap in that one i didn't have to use a sewer flap in that one so and i wouldn't any of them solve all this yeah they solve they solve all issues if they want from one certain company let's not mention them because they have a problem because i don't want to give them air time but we all know who we're on about i know you watch this podcast yeah but uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's huge joking joking flaps are a good deterrent um fitted in certain places at a certain time that's if people can afford if if people can't afford to get the drains um fixed or anything like that then flaps is probably if you can fit one that's the problem with most of them if you can fit them uh properly uh i'll tell you one thing see that did you see that interesting video where the guy had got loads of different drain flaps in

56:16 recently he got loads of like there was every single drain bit was covered with drain flaps and he had them all nice nice pulleys you have oh yeah yeah you said you see that yeah he must have put his head down in that brain he must have done he must have done don't get me wrong it looked the work looked quite good but i don't know if i'd probably some of the best work i've seen yeah but uh it was good it's fixing the problem it's yeah if you've got a problem it may have been that you don't know if you don't know if that customer wanted to get it fixed do you that's the issue well yeah yeah if it's a yeah you know how tight landlords are sometimes what the houses are they've got a big wake-up call come and say yeah this is abel floor yeah but that'll be a minefield in itself working out what's critical what's this what's that they will I know I'm doing it I'm doing a job at the moment where I need the deck him ripping up and it's it's a tricky one because the landlords doesn't want to do it but I know they're entering from under the deck in the behind you know you know the wooden plate they put on the wall to hang the deck yeah I need that wooden wooden plate bring it off but he's reluctant he doesn't want to do

57:52 it so we are we are going to have to do something uh because the decking's rotten anyhow i don't know why people have decking it's absolutely rubbish it is um a nice patio is good with that yeah it's it's just an entry point and like home for them sorry it is and i've been to ones where it's all rotten i don't know why you don't just get rid of it oh it looks nice yeah but it's a nice home too perhaps yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah you're a bit more politely than what I am then I tried to be I tried to play well you've got to try and be like you have um diplomatic yeah I've got to try and be you've got to be diplomatic and and but you want them to go the way you want them to go not the way they want to go yeah exactly so um yeah it's been a is there anything else you want want to chat about no pal no no thank you for having me on again uh yeah cheers for that this actually yeah actually we're chatting about this year no no because you told me all the hotels the hotel attached to the arena it's fucked up that is a lot of rooms you know this is hundreds of remember that one where i said i went round of the loop it's massive yeah it is good

59:31 yeah you are i can see it i thought he's put his mpta shirt one you have to get one you have to get one with a new logo on there's a different you've got a new logo they don't have to get it but that's still the mpta logo but they have got some new stickers for the value now it's in a circle i got one on the road there's a new sticker there it is well tell him to send me one then tell him to send me one i'll have one because i don't have many stick i don't have stickers on the van views i'm sure if you ring them up and say i hear you've got a new van sticker you you might be able to get one might be we've got we haven't put ours on yet we're gonna put it on i've got to gotta wash the bag it's not dirty but when you put stickers on you've got some cleaning the van ain't you yeah yeah yeah a bit of wd-40 oh yeah that it's a shame because it's also the last one at the the milton games arena it is that you'll miss yeah that's one so and then next year it moves and i cannot say where it is people don't be asking he hasn't even told me i'm i'm yeah but you know people have tried and i've done my best to so keep it under wraps because it is confidential but i imagine it you will hear it coming out from

1:00:56 i'm not saying some suppliers at some point will be told and whether they leak the information then it's down to them but it's not going to be me it's not it's not but it's not you're not in the big smoke it's not in london it's not in birmingham so there you go there's the rest of the country it could all be in you know i can't say where but yeah when it got on that i was at mpt on road peterborough and kevin opened up and said but uh he mentioned pesitek please make sure you go if she'd like to you know registrations opened then he goes this will be the last one at the end during and they will went oh where's it moving to and then he went the next one will be the second of december 2027 and they went oh so it's like it'd be like i imagine it would be a christmas theme i don't know it'd be a special theme because it's december oh good and then yeah and then on my table because we were sitting there like the the rutland chapter it was me dad uh james from pest id and shaman from shaman pest control so oakum oakum up in them oakum so we all sat there sean tell us where it is i can't i can't but you know don't you i said yeah no i know i was part of the process i says i know exactly where it is i says i can tell you now it's it's we're not going

1:02:30 four or five hours away so we're not even going three hours away but i'm not telling anyone but it will it will come out at some point whenever they decide to announce it i i don't know but they will whenever is it going to be a big is it is it going to be a big venue though is it or is it uh smaller it's not smaller than your place it's not smaller i can't say it's not it's not smaller no that would be a silly thing because it press tech i think that last year had 1400 people that's they did through the through the doors yeah it was a good one last year wasn't it i was running around like a blue airs fly i was yeah yeah but yeah i'm hoping not to be this this year i'm helping but uh can have more structure so i know where i am at what time but the technical managers will do the whole you know announcing the seminars i think they'll do that because we've got three of them yeah which has helped the obviously also i've got to say this whatever i say on this podcast is my own opinion i'm not of the mptas or any anyone i'm affiliated with just just to get that out there i think you all know that already but i just have to put it in that now and then just in case someone thinks i'm speaking on their behalf i'm not i never do

1:03:59 but uh yeah so this will be this show here i'm going to put it out tuesday jason because i've got no guests so this is a recording and i'll i'll put it out 8 p.m on tuesday and then everyone might it's done it's a recording this one is but yeah i thought i had a guest but i didn't when i booked him i didn't send a confirmation email or anything but i never do but uh yeah i booked something else so my fault but i've done 81 episodes and never really had to do that before so yeah it doesn't matter good time but yeah we've got some content it's all right yeah but i'll put it out same day i will so you probably noticed that a lot of a lot of older episodes are appearing on facebook recently that we noticed that yeah yeah yeah i started to read local i started yeah because there is actually a playlist it's going to be a massive playlist you can say it's not ready yet but then it's got all of them we're up to number 20 whichever one i've put on but it could take a while because they delete it the live they delete yeah after 30 days but anyway i'll let you get on but thanks for coming on yeah no worries next time if you want to get if you want to get somebody on get jackie on from bridginal pest control tell you one thing you know jackie i

1:05:33 actually asked her about having a like a round table about the wasp season because you are the person to talk to you are you know your stuff for wasps she's like i don't think i know enough come on jackie you're well experienced you're more experienced than me i'm a baby in the industry compared to yourself uh we'll say we'll say i don't know if she will get it right you're up you'll ask her get on get on she's got a lot of experience and I think she'd make a great guess for speaking about how what season went and she could talk about women in pest control as well I'll have to see I've been on a few jobs with it she's been absolutely brilliant Jason wants Jackie on the podcast that's his request so i'll have to see and when we mix that can happen and again and when we meet up jackie i'm paying for breakfast why she tried to pay for breakfast then or did she wait for it last time

1:06:46 i didn't get it back though i think did she what did she go up what did she go um i'm just popping into the toilet and then paid for it no no she gets a card out she gets it all done oh

1:07:01 but uh but she sent me a job a wash job local to me so i i've got her bank details so i sent her a finder's fee did she ring you and say what's this yeah she goes what's that for i said well that's where that's for giving me the that wasp nest and plus breakfast what did you say so so yeah she's a nice she's a nice lady she is such a nice she's a diamond she's so down to earth yeah well she she met because of the podcast it was like yeah i'm sure that's how she got houses well jason i live in bridge north and then you got you got chatting yeah yeah on this yeah yeah yeah she didn't know anyone before did she you've introduced her no she met any she met any other best controllers or just you no i'm going to try and get one of the pest controllers is away on aldi at the moment so i am going to try and get a few of the pest controllers locally come and have a breakfast and that and we'll earn cpd points as well yes you can do that yeah you can especially on british press register yeah but uh yeah so so thanks for coming on even though this is episode one of the product show this was a yeah this was a product plus chat about the industry chat about best control life but this will be out tuesday now obviously i'm saying this but next week

1:08:40 next week Sunday in it right the week yeah you're watching this now I've got Lee Darby on from complete bed book solution so it'll be a big show talking about bed books I'm sure a lot of people like that one that will be live it should be so yeah got lee darby from red bugs uh complete red book solutions so that'll be interesting i will yeah so yeah so thanks for coming on and i'll just end the recording so not a problem at all mate you know that all right thanks for that and i'll see everyone next week all right thanks

1:09:32 And we'll call it.